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    SonicG

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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by SonicG on Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:21 pm

    Not trying to pick an argument with any ICP fans here but I have always had a poor image of them from the incident with the comic strip about them that they couldn't handle. The artist, Mark Dancey, was responsible for one of the greatest fanzines evah called Motorbooty. He doesn't have the strip up at his site but here are some comments.

    Which doesn't mean that the idiotic [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] isn't ripe for satirizing. New York writer [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and Detroit comics artist Mark Dancey do a bang-up job of that in the newest issue of their fanzine, Motorbooty ([You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]). Their two-part comic chronicle of the Faygo-spraying whitefaced ones' rise and the legions of their "Juggalo" fans is one of the most devastating
    pieces of criticism this decade, climaxing with the Clowns' real-life humiliation on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. (Rubin: "All this ridicule evidently ate away at Violent J's inner clown. At a St. Paul concert soon after, he suffered a panic attack onstage and cut off his dreadlocks, forcing ICP to cancel the rest of their tour.")
    ......
    . Highlight
    of Motorbooty #9 - the Graphic Violence Issue is editor Mark Dancey's comic strip about the Insane Clown Posse (a band). These fellow Detroit residents revealed themselves to be even stupider than their name implies when they took exception to a mildly satirical Dancey comic strip about them that appeared in SPIN magazine, and instigated a hate campaign against him, and the publisher, thus generously providing Dancey with material for a much more critical follow-up comic. Both are reproduced here, and
    you'll learn much more than anyone, anywhere needs or wants to know about the Insane Clown Posse ...


    Actually, I just saw that all (maybe) of the old Spins were up on Google books so maybe it can be found there- I'll look for it later in case any of you haters are interested.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by Percy on Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:32 pm

    Id love to see that if you can find it.


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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by SonicG on Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:24 pm

    Here's the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Dancey only illustrated it and it contains some good points about their phenom. in general, and Detroit. I think I still have the Motorbooty issue with the followup but I don't have a scanner at home right- I'll see what I can do.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by Percy on Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:44 pm

    So this comic strip was only in ONE issue of spin and then when ICP took issue with it he further did a follow up addressing their reaction to it?

    Is this correct GG?


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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:51 pm

    Funny.

    I like the idea of a "clown fatwa" but I wouldn't want to be the target.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by SonicG on Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:54 am

    Paximus wrote:So this comic strip was only in ONE issue of spin and then when ICP took issue with it he further did a follow up addressing their reaction to it?

    Is this correct GG?
    Yes, basically. I think they did say they would fuck Dancey up or something but nothing really came of it just a lot of whiny shit-talking. The follow-up was in an issue of his mag. Motorbooty but I just checked my stash and that issue has been lost to the ages apparently. I think it might still be available on his site...
    I did like how that original piece pointed out that no black rappers had really come from Detroit. A few years later, there's really only Eminem, I guess.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:08 pm

    For me at least, Detroit = Techno

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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:51 pm

    From another dangerous mind and cool dude Richard Metzger...

    Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J expound their wisdom doctrine. This is perhaps the greatest music video I’ve ever seen. “Magic everywhere in this bitch” is nominated as my new catch phrase as of this moment.

    Who knew?

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    "Fucking magnets: how do they work?"
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by claudicici on Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:04 pm

    nice....real nice...i'm feeling...
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by the tapu on Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:01 am

    ROFL. And I don't say that lightly.

    There were so many good lines in that, but I forgot them when I got to the two you picked out: "Fucking magnets: how do they work?"... "So much magic in this bitch."

    Oh. My. God.

    Hey, how old are those guys anyway?

    And, I can't believe how, without the "mothah-fuckahs" in there, they sound like a religious song.

    Thank you, dangrs, for the entertainment. Smile
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by AndresEscobar on Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:56 am

    That song is weak. It is a religious song. Tapu, don't you know that the new jesus bands swear and act tough in order to recruit people into listening?
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by the tapu on Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:05 am

    Hah? Well.... I guess I get that. And then... these are... tough guys being soft, to entice other tough guys to be soft...?
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:46 am

    I heard about a church where the kids play x-box after services.

    "Fucking magnets: how do they work?"

    I lol-ed on that line because I studied electromagnetism and I wrote my senior thesis on Maxwell's equations in Minkowski space. I sort of know how magnets work...

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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by claudicici on Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:48 am

    ....nooooo,to entice soft guys to buy ICP tunes
    (ooops that's the answer to tapu's question ,dangrs and me posted at the same time)
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:05 am

    It's funny to see some of the reactions to Richard's post on FB about that video. Lot's of people hate on ICP, but I think they are funny. You can't take them or yourself too seriously though or it doesn't work.

    BTW in case you don't know who Richard is, he's the guy behind the Disinformation website and series of books. He's one of the Internet's original media producers and was one of the first people to produce a streaming online video show or vlog way before anyone else, and he was part of Josh Harris' Pseudo Online programming. I was fortunate enough to be invited to Richard's place in the Village about ten years back and my favorite bit was that the directions to get there included "go past the giant red dildo"

    He has some amazing art.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by Heroine on Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:37 pm

    I listen to ICP and I too think it's hilarious! I've never taken a single word they have said seriously. It's all fun and games to me.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:35 pm

    Here's someone that takes them a bit too seriously:

    Insane Clown Posse's new video for "Miracles" (see above) has been blowing up the Internet for a few days now. The ridiculous, syrupy rap song about the many "miracles" of existence, and more especially, the jaw-droppingly stupid video that accompanies it, lead to one, inescapable conclusion: the Insane Clown Posse is about to reach phase two of their plan for global domination.

    The Possee is about to transform into a Christian cult.

    From: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

    Also, I thought they were already a Christian cult? Razz
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by ziggy on Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:22 pm

    I think according to "real Christians" (don't ask me what that means; it's like pornograhy - I know it when I see it) this is a case of the wolf appearing in sheep's clothing. It is often warned that what appears to be of Christ might be the devil in disguise. Even though I don't consider myself a Christian per se, that is exactly what I think is going on here. I seriously question any morality, ethics or right-thinking by this group.
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    Re: ICP defending horrorcore on abc

    Post by dangrsmind on Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:25 am

    If these guys are "devil in disguise", they aren't very well disguised. I'd expect that the writers of the bible were aware of more subtle levels of deception and false appearance, although they probably wouldn't have anticipated an art form like horrorcore or artists like ICP.

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